The Pamphlet Collection of Sir Robert Stout: Volume 29

Application for Admission of the National Association of Carpenters and Joiners

Application for Admission of the National Association of Carpenters and Joiners.

This association consists of nine branches, situate in Nottingham, Derby, Birmingham, West Bromwich, Sheffield, King's Norton, and Cardiff, having, according to their last published quarterly report, 640 members, and an accumulated capital of £1,374. 8s. 3d. They have five superannuated members, whose average age exceeds 74. The average age of the remaining 635 members is 34 years.

Messrs. Loughton and Bateson, of Birmingham, a deputation from the Board of Management of the National Association of Carpenters and Joiners, waited on the G.C. to inquire if any terms could be arranged on which the members of their Association could be admitted into the Amalgamated Society. The same deputation had previously waited on the E.C., who had considered their case, and presented the following recommendation to the G.C.:—

Recommendation of the E.C. to the G.C.

The E.C. recommend the G.C. to propose to the members the temporary suspension of Rule 3 for the purpose of admitting the members of this association into our society, subject to the following conditions:—

1st. —That 95 per cent of the applicants produce medical certificates of good health.

2nd. —That they each pay an entrance fee of £2. 10s.page 9

3rd. —That from the date of their admission they pay the usual contribution of our members; those who have already been members of the National Association twelve months becoming entitled to the benefits provided in our rules immediately that the whole of their entrance is paid; all other members to become entitled to benefit at the end of twelve months from the date when they joined the National Association.

4th. —That for the purpose of superannuation benefit they shall date their entrance from the time when they last joined the National Association or General Union, provided that in no case shall they date back beyond May 1st, 1863. Their five superannuated members to have the benefit they are at present receiving secured to them.

The deputation, in the course of a lengthy interview, fully explained the numerical and financial position of their Association, and replied to numerous questions asked by various members of the G.C. After they had withdrawn, the following terms for their admission were agreed to as a suggestion to our members :—

Mr. Cowen proposed—

Mr. Eales seconded—

Adopted.

"That 95 per cent of the applicants produce medical certificates [of good health."—Carried unanimously.

Mr. Chandler proposed—

Mr. Tindall seconded—

"That they each pay an entrance fee of £2. 10s., excepting non-free members who have been in the National Association less than 6 months,

Rejected.

who shall pay an entrance fee—as per Rule 6, clause 1—proportioned in accordance with their age at the time of their entering the National Association."

For 1 2 8 10 11 12 (6 votes).
Against 3 4 5 6 7 9 13 14 15 16 (10 votes).

Mr. Apperley proposed—

Withdrawn.

"That all members of the National Association admitted into this society pay the sum of £2. 13s. each, and be entitled to all benefits as soon as their entrance money is paid."

This proposal not being seconded, was not put to the vote.

Mr. Harrison proposed—

Mr. Swaffer seconded—

Adopted.

"That both free and non-free members pay an entrance fee of £2.10s."

For 3 4 5 6 7 9 13 14 15 16 (10 votes).
Against 1 2 8 10 11 12 (6 votes).

Mr. Harrison proposed—

Mr. Cowen seconded—

"That from the date of their admission they pay the usual contribution of our members; those who have already been members of the National

Adopted.

Association twelve months becoming entitled to the benefits provided in our rules immediately that the whole of then* entrance is paid; all other members to become entitled to benefit at the end of twelve months from the date when they joined the National Association."—Carried unanimously.

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Mr. Harrison proposed—

Mr. Apperley seconded—

"That for the purpose of superannuation benefit they shall date their entrance from the time when they last joined the National Association

Rejected.

or General Union, provided that in no case shall they date back beyond June 1st, 1870. Their five superannuated members to have the benefit they are at present receiving secured to them."

For 1 5 7 8 9 10 13 15 (8 votes).
Against 2 3 4 6 11 12 11 16 (8 votes).

Mr. Chandler proposed—

Mr. Kirton seconded—

"That for the purpose of superannuation benefit they shall date their entrance from the time when they last joined the National Association

Adopted.

or General Union, provided that in no case shall they date back beyond May 1st, 1863. Their five superannuated members to have the benefit they are at present receiving seemed to them."

For 2 3 4 6 11 12 14 16 (8 votes).
Against 1 5 7 8 9 10 13 15 (8 votes).

The chairman gave his casting vote in favour of Mr. Chandler's proposal.

Mr. Cowen proposed—

Mr. Winsor seconded—

"That we recommend to the members the temporary suspension of the operation of Rule 3, during the months of October, November, and December next, for the purpose of admitting the members of the National Association of Carpenters and Joiners into our society, subject to the following conditions:

"1st. —That 95 per cent of the applicants produce medical certificates of good health.

"2nd. —That they each pay an entrance fee of £2. 10s.

"3rd. —That from the date of their admission they pay the usual contribution

Adopted.

of our members; those who have already been members of the National Association twelve months becoming entitled to the benefits provided in our rules immediately that the whole of their entrance is paid; all other members to become entitled to benefit at the end of twelve months from the date when they joined the National Association."

"4th. —That for the purpose of superannuation benefit they shall date their entrance from the time when they last joined the National Association or General Union, provided that in no case shall they date back beyond May 1st, 1863. Their five superannuated members to have the benefit they are at present receiving secured to them."

For 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 14 15 16 (15 votes).
Against 13 (1 vote).

The deputation having returned to the council chamber, the chairman announced to them the decision of the G.C. They thanked the G.C. for the attention which had been given to the question, and expressed their hope that the arrangements just made would prove satisfactory to the members of both Associations, and would tend to a union advantageous to every person interested therein.

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The Pamphlet Collection of Sir Robert Stout: Volume 29

Application for Admission of the National Association of Carpenters and Joiners

Application for Admission of the National Association of Carpenters and Joiners.

1st.	—That 95 per cent of the applicants produce medical certificates of good health.
2nd.	—That they each pay an entrance fee of £2. 10s.page 9
3rd.	—That from the date of their admission they pay the usual contribution of our members; those who have already been members of the National Association twelve months becoming entitled to the benefits provided in our rules immediately that the whole of their entrance is paid; all other members to become entitled to benefit at the end of twelve months from the date when they joined the National Association.
4th.	—That for the purpose of superannuation benefit they shall date their entrance from the time when they last joined the National Association or General Union, provided that in no case shall they date back beyond May 1st, 1863. Their five superannuated members to have the benefit they are at present receiving secured to them.

"1st.	—That 95 per cent of the applicants produce medical certificates of good health.
"2nd.	—That they each pay an entrance fee of £2. 10s.
"3rd.	—That from the date of their admission they pay the usual contribution Adopted. of our members; those who have already been members of the National Association twelve months becoming entitled to the benefits provided in our rules immediately that the whole of their entrance is paid; all other members to become entitled to benefit at the end of twelve months from the date when they joined the National Association."
"4th.	—That for the purpose of superannuation benefit they shall date their entrance from the time when they last joined the National Association or General Union, provided that in no case shall they date back beyond May 1st, 1863. Their five superannuated members to have the benefit they are at present receiving secured to them."