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Salient. Victoria University Student Newspaper. Volume. 34, Number 6. 1971

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Are You Man Enough To Sink &6 Worth Of Piss? And Brown Is Mighty Lion With Everything With Chips, Salami, Savs, Gherkins, Birds, Beatles, Poker... You Name It Stuef The Gapping Ball Says Superprigk Pissheads Suck Let Wanker Rugby Freaks Go To It. Come To Where The Real Heads Are


Cappicade sellers are needed in Taranaki, Hawkes Bay and Marlborough - 20% commission (6 cents a copy) - on May 6th and 7th. Some Wellington sellers are still required for this Thursday (commission 15% - 4½ cents a copy.) If you haven't filled in a form do so or come to the Board Room at 5p.m. tonight (Wednesday.)

A few hints for sellers: offer it to people, don't just stand there; pubs at night are always good selling places (pays to ask the barman first); if you go up country take a bird - she'll sell a power.

Letter: MSA

It would seem to me that the AGM did itself no honour in passing a motion purporting to refuse the Malaysian Students' Association the right to use any of the Union facilities.

I seem to have been under the illusion that the Union was to be regarded as a Forum of free speech, and that means anybody can say anything—whether that person has been told to say it, or speaks of himself. I therefore regard, with a great deal of suspicion, the argument that we should not allow the MSA the use of the building because we would be advancing or endorsing or whatever the Malaysian Government's propaganda machine.

The Malaysian Government's attitude on certain issues (including the right of freedom of speech) approaches that of South Africa. But is that any reason why we should follow their lead and refuse a group, not only the right to use the building for its meetings, but also to refuse it for dances and other social activities.

I am disappointed, to say the least, at those Association members who saw fit, without hearing the MSA's viewpoint, to try and prevent the MSA using the facilities—which are provided for every student, individually and collectively.

Do I support the Malaysian Government and its coercive and repugnant attempts to set up a mouthpiece (if this is in fact the case)? I do not but then neither do I find acceptable the measures which the AGM saw fit to take.

Anyone should be permitted a fair hearing. Appreciate the disgust I feel for those who deny it.

Graeme Collins President VUWSA


It's a hard job putting on balls successfully but this year's organisers seem to have them firmly in hand and they promise to be swinging. The main one for the average student is the Capping Ball on Friday April 30th. Both top and bottom floors of the U.U.B. will be used. A band will be playing on one floor Joshua's Mobile Discotheque will feature on the other. Don't ask what it is, come and find out. There are reported to be abundant supplies of piss of all varieties: tickets are selling fast.

There are two Grad Balls - Arts on Wednesday May 5th, other faculties on Thursday 6th. Graduates contemplating a last chunder on Union property should buy now as ticket sales are limited.

Letter: Rock Reviews

Wow! A whole pages worth of rock record reviews!

Mr McLatchie wasn't too bad; only half-a-dozen stickey moments (what was he writing - a record review or the introductory chapter of a theology treatise?) but Mr Forsman got lost somewhere between his first phrase ("Once upon a time") and his last sentence ("The balance is there, it's just that we must find and accept it"). That last sentence of his is quite good. Where did Mr Forsman go wrong? Talking about the Moody Blues he says "their music ... reflected the deceivingly simple yet terribly complex attitudes that they had to life and to music. These two records were essentially a search for truth .. " and "I get the feeling that the 'Moody Blues' ... deliberately insulated themselves from the modern world or from reality - yet were attempting to communicate with the world a message or judgement on reality" or later "the lyrics are reallygreat."

Hells bloody bells, boy, what does it mean? I mean hell, I have a private "audio-video dialogue?" and "meaningful" words haven't been with us for years, I thought.

Are view should be just that, not an advertisement, and especially not a bad advertisement. O.K., so it's hard to write a review, but does it have to be just another nauseating exercise in superlatives.

Chris Clayton


So the revolution has come - at least in the Anthropology department (even if it was only leftovers from the one in Sociology I) and not it's in the chaotic stage characteristic of most revolutions. It's a pity that two quite different interests have got mixed up in it all. Both stem from the frustration at the poor quality and boredom of lectures and tutorials, but the moderates want to hold weekly seminars on things not dealt with adequately in lectures, while the radicals want to put pressure on the department/university/all N.Z. to change our whole education system. The second idea was presented in an inarticulate way during a 25 minute interruption of an Anthro I lecture, largely by someone who wasn't even doing Anthropology.

At a follow-up meeting on Thursday night discussion tended to concentrate on diffuse, abstract issues rather than on specific means of action - a characteristic of all student discussions from SCM seminars to 'forum.' At times the topics seemed only an excuse to air other hang-ups and the group got so obsessed with bureaucracy-hatred at one point that it nearly degenerated into anarchy. Some of the feelings about exams stemmed from paranoia on the part of some first-year students more, I suspect, than from a desire to improve our educational experience. It is interesting to note that only 23 of the 50-odd people present actually spoke, and while this is a good figure in itself, it does mean that over half the people there showed that same unwillingness to talk which the meeting as a whole condemned in the present lecture system.

The meeting didn't come up with anything concre [unclear: the] opposite in fact, than [unclear: re] anarchist elements [unclear: with the] group. It was vaguely [unclear: decided], however, to combine the interests of both radicals and moderates so that interested students from all social sciences would be catered for. The old cliche "more research is needed" was heard in different form when they avoided having to make a decision by arranging another talk-session this Thursday.

To a prejudiced critic like myself, the intentions of the radicals (majority) are sincere but too woolly to be much use. All the discussion centered around abstract and extremist views without trying to work out practical ways to change things. Does this stem from unwillingness to work for the cause they so ardently preach or just from inability to come down to ground level? So I don't think constructive proposals will come from the group in its present state until they realise that words without practical action cannot achieve anything, except perhaps more words.

S. F. Maclean

[The same event prompted a more positive contribution]

Amid the current conflict over reassessment of the marking system, the abolition of exams and the general dissatisfaction with university course emphasis students met last Thursday to discuss mutual problems. The usual percentage of enrolled students attended - 0.1%.

The result was a proposal for an open university existing independantly of the present system along the lines that one can study what one likes.

Tomorrow the group will meet at an advertised place and time to discuss the structure of such an open university. Come along!

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