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Salient. Victoria University Student Newspaper. Volume 33, No. 3 18 March 1970

Letters to the Editor

Letters to the Editor

Dr Taylor's article

Sir,

I should like to thank you for publishing extracts from Professor Taylor's report to University Council on student counselling (Salient, 18 Feb. 1970). Students must have found it particularly interesting to be able to read the opinions of someone who (at least, until recently) was an appointed adviser to them.

As a member of staff, I found particularly interesting Professor Taylor's recommendation that (presumably, when engaging staff), "more attention must be given to the personal qualities of stability, enthusiasm, loyalty, and responsibility of academics as well as to the qualities of their degrees". I presume that this is an amplification of Professor Taylor's earlier homage to academic freedom.

Malcolm Acock

Illicit Union Licit?

Sir,

In Salient 2 Mr Brooke-White offered us a worm's eye photograph of the Common Room chairs which would only be seen by worms or drunks. For most, the views from the Common Room are magnificent, and far surpass those of Auckland, Massey or Ilam.

The awkward site, a deep gully, originally allotted to the Student Union by the University, largely dictated the original plan, and the additions naturally conform with this structure.

The balcony will almost certainly be a popular place in fine weather, and eight-inch stays for the offending windows have long been ordered, that Mr Brooke-White need have no fear for his ill-used eyes.

In the matter of design every architect has his own viewpoint, but the contrasts in form and colour both inside and outside make the new SUB interesting, attractive and liveable; and there has been nothing but favourable comment amongst those whose opinions I have sought.

Greg Rowe

Sir,

Over a period of 22 years as a Construction Foreman on many and varying types of contracts. Engineering, Commercial and otherwise. I have had the privilege of reading many divergent opinions of the merits and non-merits of the various structures.

I can truthfully state now, that I have never read a more biased one-eyed opinion from a critic in all my life. He was purely destructive, and obviously well primed before he commenced his illicit inspection.

His comments on the leaning columns on the walkway were ample evidence, to me at least, that he did not know what he was talking about, and his 1800 words were the scribbling of a gormless clot suffering from an overdose of Parliamentary privilege.

Josh Kerr

(Editor's note: In reply to Mr Rowe's defence of his father's design for the Student Union Extensions and Mr Kerr's views as Foreman on the site, Mr Brooke-White's qualifications are as follows—educated at Bartlett School of Architecture, University College London; five years practice in London; now works for an architectural firm in Wellington and edits Offcentre, a magazine about architecture.)

Correspondent complains

Sir,

I am not aware of the means by which you obtained copies of my private correspondence. The fact that you read my letters is reprehensible enough. To print them is inexcusable. Any further exposure of my private life will lead to prompt action.

Charles Brown

Film Criticism

Sir,

Some time ago I chanced to find a yellowed and crusty copy of Salient lying in the gutter. Flicking away the road dust and wood lice I discovered your farcical comment on The Wild Bunch. How could you conceivably feel that this magnificent movie was "utter rubbish"? I can only conclude that you wrote the criticism as a monstrous practical joke calculated to attract 50,000 letters of protest like this—perhaps to sell to a Boy Scout paper drive.

The film was glorious! What's wrong with you, man? Suffer from a morbid fear of death or something? Take that final scene, for instance. How superb! Blood didn't merely stain a guy's vest when he was hit by a high-velocity slug—it flew through the air like crimson porridge. The screen was wondrously ensanguined by a huntingly beautiful liquid amalgam of lymph, flesh and brains, bursting from Mexican bodies like mud from a Rotorua pool. The screams of the dying were as a fairy melody between the stereophonic speakers, and the smell of rotting flesh hung on the air like the breath of a summer breeze.

I grant you that the story was not all that great, but why worry about trivia in the face of such illustriously portrayed violence? Wait until you see Soldier Blue, a film that makes the slaughter in The Wild Bunch seem as tame as a bathtub squabble between two rubber ducks. Until then, may a murrain fall and blast your criticism.

Peter J Needham

Diploma in Science

Sir,

In your issue of March 4 you reported remarks made by me at Council as follows: "The proposal 'came out of the blue' in spite of the fact that a senior member of the Victoria University staff is undoubtedly on the Authority." This may be taken as a reflection on Professor W.E. Harvey. On looking further into the matter I am satisfied that any such implication, which arose through a misunderstanding on my part, was completely unjustified and I request that you publish this explanation and the following information supplied to me by Professor Harvey;

"I am indeed a member of the Technicians Certification Authority, though I have only sat on that body for a relatively short time. My membership of the Authority is, however, in no way whatsoever connected with my position in the University and I do not represent either this University or the Vice-Chancellors' Committee on the Authority. The Vice-Chancellors Committee is in fact represented on the Authority by a member of staff From Canterbury University, while I am a member elected to the Authority by its Executive Committee for Science, on which body I have sat for a number of years as a representative of the N.Z. Institute of Chemistry).

"The matter of possible Diploma Courses has received much attention in the press and elsewhere of late, more especially of course at the last meeting of Vice-Chancellors. At that time I, with the full consent of the Authority, communicated to the Vice-Chancellor's Secretary that, should the Vice-Chancellor's Committee wish to have any further information relating to the Authority's discussion on Diploma Courses, I would be happy to make myself available to the Vice-Chancellors' Committee, I believe that the T.C.A. had informed the Vice-Chancellors' Committee of this, although as the T.C.A. met only a rather short time prior to the Vice-Chancellors' Committee, this may not in fact have been done. In the event, however, I was not asked to discuss the matter with the Vice-Chancellors' Committee. I was present at the last meeting Of the T.C.A., at which the question of the introduction of Diploma Course and, in particular, a Diploma in Science was discussed. I was one of those who took the view that no action should be taken until the Vice-Chancellors' Committee had had an opportunity to consider the proposals, and indeed the record of that meeting and the recollections of other members who attended it will, I am sure, substantiate this contention."

I.D. Campbell

The First SRC Meeting

Sir,

I was one of those students who attended the first meeting of the SRC last week. No wonder there is an apathetic attitude towards student politics. After listening for half an hour I got so fed up I left, with many others.

Why? When it takes three hours to discuss two motions—relatively straightforward motions at that—one tends to get pissed off. Alright, there is a Constitution to follow but does it have to be followed so rigidly that the whole meeting gets bogged down in protocol so that nothing gets done. Motions are discussed, amended, counter-motions are introduced, so that before long the original motion is unrecognisable

And still the meeting gets smaller.

Perhaps it was the presence of the TV cameras that caused this tedious ritual. Well if this was the case some people certainly made every effort to be seen on camera.

I call it the irony of democracy. The SRC is supposed to be a democratic institution but democratic principles are carried to such a degree that it is extremely hard to see the democratic elements involved, especially as two or three vocal goons can almost ruin the meeting by their interjections and points of order. If this state of affairs' is allowed to continue the SRC meetings will certainly be struggling to keep a quorum. I suggest to Miss Bryson and co. that they take a long hard look at the SRC and try to eradicate the weaknesses that are so prevalent.

D.J. Patten

One Per Cent Aid

Sir,

Mr James Mitchell (I presume his name is James) seems to be demanding, in his comments on One Per Cent Aid, that we should place logic and reason upon impulses that are fundamentally human and Good. There is very little impulsive goodness in the world today.

It makes people feel good to give, and all that feels tood can't be that bad.

If Mr Mitchell wants to find logical reasons for loving or giving, or wanting to love or to give, we who don't need them would rather he-keep his inquiries to himself.

Lisa Sacksen

Sir,

I cannot say of Mr Mitchell that he has been the most successful pressure group on campus in 1969, and in fact I considered treating his article with the contempt which it deserves. However, many people who had worked damn hard for 1% A.I.D, felt affronted by his twaddle so I thought I would give him the satisfaction of a rejoinder.

Second, there is nothing reprehensible in my original statement and I don't want to withdraw anything I said last year. New Zealand has not taken its international responsibilities seriously and the fact that we have fought in every bloody conflict since the Boer War only proves this point.

Third, I still don't want to be part of a W.A.S.P. right backlash, whether it be in relation to race or development. We know Mitchell doesn't mind, he is the backlash.

First, thanks for acknowledging that 1% A.I.D, was the most successful student pressure group in 1969. (We always had a sneaking suspicion that we were but having Mitchell say so is some indication of the extent to which we managed to penetrate the total political spectrum from far right to far left). Before we know where we are the Aid Rhodesia Society will be clamouring for New Zealand assistance to Southern Africa.

Fourth, Mitchell's non-arguments:

(a) No-one in 1% A.I.D. has ever said use aid as a bribe, nor has it been implied in any of our statements, (b) It has certainly not been proven that it is poor business to invest in a developing region. On the contrary, developing nations will only achieve 'lift off if there is some degree of capital investment as well as an investment of necessary skills.—Why doesn't Mitchell read Teach Yourself Economies? It's a very simple book and readily available, (c) 1% A.I.D. is not a Christian organisation and it has never mentioned increasing aid as a sop to the Christian conscience—as the founder of hristianity said "The words are yours." Could it be that Mitchell is feeling quilty about something and is transferring his guilt onto the first unblemished organisation he sets his beady eyes on?

Mitchell develops these arguments with fairly addle-headed logic and finishes off with a lot of nonsense about naked Emperors. It would seem that Mitchell should try and concentrate on what 1% A.I.D. really said and did rather than what he imagined it to do and say. It is sort of permissible for farmers to exaggerate but sometimes the bull's wool isn't thick enough to cover our eyes.

Kevin P. Clements

(Editor's note: Mr Clements' letter has been abridged through the omission of a personal reference to Mr Mitchell.)

Student accommodation

Sir,

I was thrilled to see the topic of your lead article Pull Finger on Accommodation in the last issue of Salient.

The question I wish to ask is "Are Victoria students going to ever get off their chuffs and actually do something about the accommodation problem?" For years, in fact for generations, there has been talk and complaint but damn all action.

Rick Smith