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Salient. An Organ of Student Opinion at Victoria University College, Wellington N.Z. Vol. 20, No. 9. June 27, 1957

Dear Salient

Dear Salient

R.C.'s Object

Your report on the University Catholic Society Conference ("Salient 13.6.57) was headed "R.C's Confer". I agree that title Roman Catholic is that given to the Church officially in New Zealand. But it is one to which Catholics object, particularly in ordinary reports and statements and your courtesy in refraining from using it in future references would be welcomed.

Custom and precedent in the College support this request—the Catholic Students Guild has used and been given that title Since its foundation.

The report contains two [unclear: inaccuracies]:
(a)It was not suggested that an observer be sent to the African Seminar of Pas Romans the International Catholic Student body) Two separate motions appear to have been confused to get this result.
(b)It has not yet been decided that the 1958 U.C.S. Congress will be held at Raumati. The venue will not be decided until the Congress Committee is convened.

I should particularly appreciate publication of the latter correction.

D. P. Neazor, President

Victoria University College Catholic Students' Guild

[We do nut discriminate in favour of any branch of the Catholic Church.—Ed.]

Look Before . . .

While agreeing with the general sentiments expressed by "Sal" in his editorial. I regret that the writer did not see fit to read the magazine of smutty repute which he so roundly condemned "Cappicade" was much improved this year. For that the Editor deserves full Credit. It certainly was not the same type of humour as the "New Yorker", which would have been quite out of character for a student publication, but neither was it at all like "Man" "Man" "devotees" would certainly have been disappointed by "Cappicade"—and Extrav". In my opinion it is the "ordinary citizen who enjoys these productions, for the ordinary citizen is (thank God) free from the pious aloofness of such superior students as "Sal"



As a postscript to "Partisan's" contribution on the disintegration of "The Party". I would recommend your readers to try an article by Prof. Hyman Levy in the "New Statesman" of 27th April. It says what "Partisan" was probably attempting to say but it says it much better.

Also, as a postscript to C.B.'s composite review on some articles about "Poland Since Poznan". I would recommend a series of articles, also in the "New Statesman", by K. S. Karol—especially one on the economic situation in the issue of 4th May.

Come to that. I would recommend the "New Statesman" as a whole—in addition to, not instead of, "Salient" of course.

—March Hare.

Reflections on Procesh—to the Secretary

While sitting in a tram lunch-hour on Friday on the Quay, awaiting the pleasure of our youth and beauty to allow us to pass on a wet dirty muddy ball of brown paper came through the window and smacked my hat. I am sorry I brushed it off nearly, yesterday, as I would have liked the clever lads who thought that one up to sec it. They were standing beside 'The Dragon". I feel so sorry for the little Darlings, whose wit and fun is so feeble. No one likes a laugh more than I do. To see the "processions" of today is one of the most boring things a person can witness To be a success people must have a sense of humour, tolerance, so the poor things that [unclear: arrange] these processions are really to be pitied, as they must be lacking in the worth while things in one's make-up as children couldn't even get a laugh out of their ideas.

Perhaps this could be read out to them and if possible it might go home to them, what fools they make of themselves.

Anne Milne Halley.

Correspondence School?

The spate of essays expected from students in some departments appear to have increased compared with last year.

As last year's grand total put some departments in open competition with the type of education [unclear: indeed] in some of our more pedantic secondary schools one is now surely entitled, and indeed obliged, to ask whether a system distinct [unclear: from] lower educational institutions cannot be devised.

Can we not maintain our standard without recourse to such un-university methods of study? Must departments, to defend their own standards, increase the number of essays in face of similar increases by other departments? Cannot some general agreement be reached at a faculty level?

The case of one student I know who has some 30 essays to complete in 20odd weeks may be extreme, but an average of one essay every 8-9 days is nothing unusual for a student taking more than one Arts unit at higher stages.

Just when he is expected to gain a thorough general background to the particularised essay topics, or delve into those facets of his subjects which are of special interest to him. I cannot guess. Nor. I assume, can the departments concerned. If this has not been dealt with already by the Professorial Board, may I suggest, through "Salient", that this time is overdue.

If the mad race to increase essay work is not halted soon, we will not need the extension planned for the present site we will be at home, conducting our University education—in a vacuum from all other aspects of University life bar our subjects—by correspondence.—A. C. Walsh.

Bad Show

It is interesting to see that this year's Graduands' supper cost £55 The food, though ample, was not particularly inviting and, indeed, much of it was left over The main trouble was a shortage of liquid refreshments. The supply was "out" very early in the proceedings Much of it was drunk by the students who were acting as waiters for the evening. Some before the function began.


Mild Interest

I read, with mild interest, in your issue dated 30th May, of your criticism of "Cappicade" This article prompts me to give you a small piece of advice, namely, if you are so concerned with the standard to which the magazine has sunk, "same odd and worthless tradition." you are quite welcome to write the magazine next year Failing this, of course, you could use some of your no doubt valuable time in sending in a few articles of a suitable nature.

Although you more or less condemn the magazine, you found time to print in "Salient" an article from "Cappicade" As if this was not enough, the article appeared in your paper two days before "Cappicade" was on sale I would (a) like you to be consistent in your ideals, (b) like a suitable explanation why the article "Extravaganza and Society" was printed in "Salient" of the 8th May—M. W. Cullinane, Editor. Cappicade" '57,

[The article in question was found in manuscript amongst copy for the "Salient" Issue of 9th May. There was no indication that a similar article had been submitted to "Cappicade." We consider our action in publishing it right and proper in the circumstance us they were then known to us. Nevertheless a personal apology was extended to the Editor of "Cappicade" immediately the duplication was discovered. We regret that Mr. Cullinane could not see his way to accept our apology or good faith—Ed.)


I note your apologies for some misprints. You make reference to the Fairburn tribute (9th May) arid mention the setting of some verse as prose Compared to another fault in the same article, this is nothing—for you at least get the words right Please correct the following, as it embarrasses me to be credited with gibberish. The published text: "What sort of docketting with academic comfort deman before he is passed on to students?"—should read "What sort of dockettmg will academic comfort demand," etc.—B.B.

We Apologise—E.d.

Ex-Editorial Comment

The last issue of "Salient" had some good stuff in it and I like the new type-face. But you still have far too many printer's (or are they proof reader's?) errors "Extrav." is accredited with "wealth of talen", and there is a mysterious classification mentioned by the name "catefory" (twice). The S. C. M report degenerates into meaningless noises: "Next term was are continuing the fortnightly talks. " Hell! Have pity on the nerves of someone who, while in charge of "Salient", at least kept words the way they look in the Dictionary.—Ex-Editor.

We Apologise—E.d.

We Apologise

  • To T.S., author of the report of Prof Slater's address to the Chem. Soc on Russia, for permitting the figure of £600 to appear instead of £6000 as the income of a Russian scientist.
  • For the omission of the word "invariably" from between the words "almost" and "totalitarian" in Dr. Soper's article, which altered the the meaning of one sentence considerably.
  • For the misprints, misproofs, and [unclear: mis-slips] mentioned by various correspondents in our "Dear Salient" column. We are doing our damndest to eliminate these entirely in the future.

Someone Else Apologises

Sorry (See my letter in your sixth issue, in which I accused you of disloyalty.) I ought to be ashamed of my own disloyalty.

"All offices committees affiliations up ointments awards employments regulations resolutions decisions orders certificates records instruments and generally all acts of authority which originated under the rules hereby repealed...—VUCSA Constitution, section 5. clause

What else is there?

David Laws.

I Like Wit

I have given up going out of my way to see the Capping procession I like [unclear: wit]. But the thing that could make me recommend the students annual gag effort would be if at least the proceeds went for a charitable purpose. I would know that by giving a donation for some worth while object I would not just put a coin in a box. But would also tend to impress upon a would-be funny student that an attempt at humour—however badly conceived and executed—can be used by the (good) purpose behind it.—J.Sch.

There will be no issue of "Salient" on Thursday. 11th July (when one would be due under our normal fortnightly schedule) as this falls in Study Week.

The next issue will appear on Thursday, 18th July, and will contain the Exec. Election results and decisions of the A.G.M.