Motive.

If the moral revolution does not come about universally a material revolution is inescapable, said Mr. Menzies. Thus the Movement may be regarded as an escape from a bloody proletarian rising.

"Salient": "Would you say that history shows that moral change precedes material and social change?"

Mr. Menzies: "I think that history does show that. We see for example that the moral decadence of Rome led to its down fall."

"Salient": "Would you care to give any comment on Soviet Russia, the great exponent of the antithetical doctrine of material and political change?"

Mr. Menzies: "I myself have never been in Russia, but many of my friends have gone away keen and have returned sadly disappointed."