[Mr. Richmond.] Will you tell this House whether you think it would be well to stop supplies going to disaffected tribes, and to stop the purchase from such tribes of their produce, and to compel European traders to leave the districts inhabited by such tribes?

Te kupu i whakaaro ai au mo tera, kua puta ki Kohimarama. E pai ana au kia whakamutua te hoatutanga o nga taonga ki a ratou e kino mai, ki nga tangata kahore e piri mai ki ta tatou tikanga nei—hei whakamate i a ratou mehemea ekore ratou e whakarongo ki runga ki te noho pai. Ki ahau, e pai ana tera tikanga, kia tutakina te hoko taonga ki te hunga tutu. E tika ana kia whakahokia mai aua Pakeha, kia matau ratou i a ratou pohehetanga.

My thoughts upon that subject have been expressed at Kohimarama. I approve of the stopping of supplies to those who are disaffected—to those men who will not adhere to our paternal rules —if they will not yield quiet obedience. In my opinion that is a good plan: the stopping supplies to the disaffected. It is right to bring back those Pakehas, that they (the Maories) may perceive their mistake.

[Mr. Forsaith.] Supposing one of your young men were to commit an offence against the Pakeha, would his relatives be willing to give him up to be tried by the Pakeha?

E mea ana ahau, me tutu taua taitamariki, me hamana ia, me tuku mai kia whakawakia ki te ture, Ki te mea ekore e tukua mai, me whai ture mo te tangata e pupuri ai.

My answer is, If those young men offend, let them be summoned; they must be given up to be judged by the law. If they are not given up, the law must deal with those who hold them.

Supposing some of the rebellious people now at Waitara with William King were to go to their relatives in another true, do you think that those relatives would give them up to the Governor?

Ki toku whakaaro kahore pea e tukua mai.

I think that they would probably not give them up.

If not, would the tribe be able to take them?

Heoi ano tona whakakino, te pakanga.

The only evil result would be war.