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The Pamphlet Collection of Sir Robert Stout: Volume 75

Parliamentary Committee

Parliamentary Committee.

This matter was fully argued before the Parliamentary Committee of 1886 (see Parliamentary Paper, I., 9, 1886). The following table summarises the evidence then given, and it also most satisfactorily answers the second question: Will the fares paid by passengers under the new system average 1s. each? It will be seen that it proves, that even if the enormous reductions in long distance fares did not lead to any increase in the average distance travelled, that the average fare would still be 11¾d., instead of the 4½d. Mr. Maxwell said it would be.

It also proves conclusively that two of my low price fares will give a much larger revenue than one of their high price ones; for twice page 5 424,914 is 849,828, whereas their own accountant says I only want 817,454, leaving me a surplus of 32,374 fares from the Auckland line alone.

My calculation is that, under the new system, at the very least four (4) fares would be taken where one is taken now. These at 1s. each, calculated on the basis of last year's travelling, would yield a revenue of £832,485, from passengers alone.

This is an increase of £473,663 on our passenger revenue of last year, and only £350,556 less than the total gross railway revenue for the year 1895-6.

I am quite convinced that by adopting the Stage System we could, within three or four years at the outside, add at least £700,000 to our gross railway revenue. I know that to most people my calculations will appear wild and impossible of attainment; but this is not so, they are the result of very careful study, and I am satisfied that they are moderate and easy of attainment.

It may be as well to mention that the reductions made in passenger fares in Hungary were the same as I am advocating here, namely, to about one-fifth (1-5th) of the present charges. The result has been to increase the average distance travelled by each passenger from seventy-one (71) to one hundred and thirty (130) kilometres.

As all my calculations are based on an increase of from 13 to 15 miles only, the mind becomes bewildered in contemplating the vast financial and social results that would ensue, if our success were only equal to that of the Hungarians; and I again say, it would be greater.

There is practically no limit to the development of railway traffic and revenue, provided they (the railways) are worked on sound principles. The experience of Hungary proves this, where, with a still faulty system, but a great improvement on the present one, not only do their railways pay well, but trade and commerce has been lifted out of the mire, and the whole face, of the country changed.

At any rate I am now in a position to say this. The course of events has proved that I correctly predicted, long before the result was seen, what would be the outcome of certain operations on four different railway systems. Is it therefore in the least likely that I shall be mistaken as to the result of my own work?

I do not say this in any spirit of boasting, nor do I in any way claim to be a prophet, but I do claim that it proves that I have carefully studied my subject and have arrived at sound conclusions as to the principles on which railway finance and working should be based.

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NEW ZEALAND RAILWAYS. Summary of Passengers carried on the Auckland Section, under different Stages (Helensville to Morrinsville), for the Twelve Months ended 31st March, 1886. STATEMENTS MADE As to what Mr. Vaile's average fare for the distances named would be. DISTANCES. Present per centage of travellere at these distances Per centage of revenue they now have to pay. Total Number of passengers carried at Government Fares. Total Revenue. Number of Passengers computed to give the same Revenue at .Mr. Vaile's Fares. What this Table says. Samuel Vaile's Statement. J. P. Maxwell's Statement. Mr. Hannay's Statement. Equal Numbers of each Class. Two First class to one Second. * * £ s. d. * * * * Not exceeding 3 miles ... ... Travellers of these distances are 68.8 of the whole Per 55,518½ 1,215 12 1 59,588 55,860 5.15d. Average for 9 miles and under not more than 5d. Over 3 and not exceeding 5 miles 94,781 2,801 17 5 130,100 121,975 not less than 5d. Over 5 and not exceeding 7 miles 24.1 96,604½ 3,435 2 0 157,176 147,356 Over 7 and not exceeding 10 miles 46,045½ 2,144 4 3 60,012 56,259 8.57d. not below 8d. for 8 to 10 mls. Total of 10 miles and under 292,949½ 9,596 15 9 406,876. 381,450 5.66d. Could not be more than 4½d. Over 10 & not exceeding 30 miles These are 75,562½ 8,324 10 10 194,445 182,292 1/5¾d. Over 30 & not exceeding 50 miles 25.3 39.2 31,640 7,322 17 6 81,842 76,731 "In the country districts is only 4½d. for 50 nules. Over 50 miles ... ... ... These are 5.9 36.7 24,762 14,665 13 1 134,291 125,900 Gross Total ... ... ... 424,914 39,909 17 2 817,454 766,373 11 ¾d. 1s. "For all distances over 10 m. most unlikely to average 1s. 1½d." "I do not think the average (for all distances) will be 1s" Accountant's Office, Wellington A. C. FIFE, Accountant. All the columns marked thus * have been added-by S. V.

Evidence Produced at the Parliamentary Enquiry into Vaile's Stage System in 1886.

What the Government Railway Accountant Proves would be the Financial Result of Adopting Vaile's System of Railway Fares and Charges.

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I will ask you, Sir, to be good enough to bear in mind that I was not allowed to see this return until the work of the Committee of 1886 had closed. If I had had it one week sooner, it is difficult to see how the Committee could have done other than recommend an unconditional trial.