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The Pamphlet Collection of Sir Robert Stout: Volume 29

Minutes of the Proceedings of the General Council [1877]

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Amalgamated Society of Carpenters and Joiners.

Minutes of the Proceedings of the General Council,

Co-Operative Printing Society Limited Manchester 17, Balloon Street, Corporation Street.

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List of the General Council.

District No. 1 H. Robertson, Glasgow.
District 2 D. Kieton, West Hartlepool.
District 3 T. Cowen, Sheffield.
District 4 J. Winsor, Hull 2nd.
District 5 P. Sweeney, Bradford 1st.
District 6 J. Beaumont, Manchester 4th.
District 7 J. B. Smith, Oldham.
District 8 W. Jones, Liverpool 2nd.
District 9 P. Beasley, Oxford.
District 10 W. Appekley, Birmingham 2nd.
District 11 F. Chandler, Hammersmith.
District 12 S. Tindall, Pimlico.
District 13 E. Harrison, Lambeth.
District 14 F. C. Swaffer, Gravesend.
District 15 G. Eales, Torquay.
District 16 M. D. Flinn, Dublin.

John Thompson, Chairman.

John D. Prior, General Secretary.

The numbers attached to the various propositions will be found to correspond with the numbers prefixed to the Councilmen's names, and indicate the votes given by each Councilman.

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General Council Meeting.

In conformity with rule, the members of the General Council assembled at the General Offices at 10 a.m. on Tuesday, June 12th, 1877.

Credentials.

The Chairman, Mr. John Thompson, having formally opened the proceedings, called on the Councilmen present to hand in their credentials, when it was found that Mr. M. D. Flinn, of Dublin, was the only absentee.

Minutes of the Executive Council.

Mr. Harrison proposed—

Mr. Kirton seconded—
"That the minutes of all meetings of the E.C. which have been held since

Adopted.

the last G.C. meeting, be laid on the table for reference."—Carried unanimously.

General Councilman No. 16.

At this stage of the proceedings Mr. Flinn arrived, presented his credentials, and took his seat at the board.

Programme Of Business.

Mr. Eales proposed—

Mr. Cowen seconded—
"1.That the G.C. assemble at nine o'clock each morning, retire for lunch at twelve o'clock for half an hour, resume business at half-past twelve, and sit until four p.m.
"2.That for convenient reference, the members of the G.C. be seated in rotation, in accordance with the list attached to these suggestions.
"3.That all propositions which in any way vary from the printed suggestions shall be submitted in writing.

Adopted.

"4.
That in the event of more than two propositions being made on one subject, the two receiving the largest number of votes shall be again submitted to the meeting.
"5.No member of the G.C. to be allowed to speak twice on one proposition until every other Councilman has had an opportunity of speaking; the mover of the motion only to have the light of reply.
"6.That a statement of the reasons which have influenced the G.C. in their decision be appended to each proposition which is submitted to the votes of the members."—Carried unanimously.

Admission of Members.

Mr. Jones proposed—

Mr. Eales seconded—

Rejected.

"That Rule 6, clause 2, remain unaltered."
  • For 5 8 13 15 (4 votes).
  • Against 1 2 3 4 6 7 9 10 11 12 14 10 (12 votes).
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Mr. Kirton proposed—

Mr. Robertson seconded—

Adopted.

"That it is desirable to make some provision for breaking down the hard and fast line at present prohibiting the admission of candidates under 21 years of age."
  • For 1 2 3 4 6 7 9 10 11 12 14 16 (12 votes).
  • Against 5 8 13 15 (4 votes).

Mr. Kirton proposed—

Mr. Swaffer seconded—

Rejected.

"That in Rule 6, clause 2, the words and figures in the fifth line, viz.:—'Less than 21 or,' be struck out, which will make the rule read thus—'They must be in good health, have worked five years at the trade, be good workmen, of steady habits and good moral character, and not more than 45 years of age. They shall not at the time of their admission belong to, or, if admitted, afterwards enter, any other trade society.' "
  • For 2 4 11 14 (4 votes).
  • Against 1 3 5 6 7 8 9 10 12 13 15 16 (12 votes).

Mr. Harrison proposed—

Mr. Smith seconded—
"That the second clause of Rule 6 be so altered as to read as follows :—'Candidates shall possess the following qualifications:—They must be in good health, have worked at the trade five years, be good workmen, of steady

Adapted.

habits, and good moral character, and not less than 20 or more than 45 years of age. They shall not at the time of their admission belong to, or, if admitted, afterwards enter, any other trade society.'"

1st time For of voting.

  • 5 7 8 12 13 15 (6 votes),
  • Against 1 2 3 4 6 9 10 11 14 16 (10 votes).

2nd time For of voting.

  • 2 7 4 11 12 13 5 (7 votes),
  • Against 1 3 5 6 8 9 10 14 16 (9 votes).
Mr. Chandler proposed—

Withdrawn.

"That the limit of age for admission be not less than 19 or more than 45 years of age."

This proposition not being seconded, was not put to the vote.

Mr. Robertson proposed—

Mr. Beasley seconded—
"That, without altering our rules at present, branches be invested with a discretionary power of admitting candidates under 21 years of age, if they are in every other particular duly qualified for admission in conformity with

Rejected.

Rule 6, clause 2. In districts in which more than one branch is established, this power shall only be exercised by the authority of a joint summoned meeting, or by a delegate meeting in the London District."

1st time of voting.

  • For 1 3 6 9 10 16 (6 votes).
  • Against 2 4 5 7 8 11 12 13 14 15 (10 votes).

2nd time of voting.

  • For 1 3 6 9 10 14 16 (7 votes),
  • (Against 2 4 5 7 8 11 12 13 15 (9 votes).

The votes being equal, the Chairman recorded his casting vote in favour of Mr. Harrison's proposition, which was again read from the chair as the substantive motion, when

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Mr. Chandler proposed—

Mr. Robertson seconded—
"That Rule 6, clause 2, shall be so altered as to read thus: Candidates shall possess the following qualifications : They must be in good health, be

Rejected.

good workmen, of steady habits, and good moral character, and not less than 18 or more than 45 years of age; they shall not, at the time of their admission, belong to, or, if admitted, afterwards enter into, any other trade society."
  • For 1 9 10 11 14 16 (6 votes.)
  • Against 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 12 13 15 (10 votes).
Mr. Harrison's proposal was then formally put a third time, with the following result:—
  • For 2 3 4 5 7 8 12 13 15 (9 votes).
  • Against 1 6 9 10 11 14 10 (7 votes).

Mr. Swaffer proposed—

Mr. Kirton seconded—

Adopted.

"That apprentices in the last year of their engagement bo admitted, if they are in every respect eligible in conformity with Rule 6, clause 2."
  • For 1 2 3 4 5 7 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 (14 votes).
  • Against 6 8 (2 votes).

Mr. Harrison proposed—

Mr, Kirton seconded—

Adopted.

"That it is not desirable to extend the limit of age for the admission of candidates whose age exceeds 45 years."—Carried unanimously.

Wednesday, June 18th.

Nine O'Clock A.M.

Minutes.

Mr. Kirton proposed—

Mr. Chandler seconded—

Adopted.

"That the minutes of yesterday's proceedings, as read, be confirmed."—Carried unanimously.

Reduced Contributions and Increased Benefits.

Mr. Tindall proposed—

Mr. Chandler seconded—

Adopted.

"That the discussion of the scale of contributions and benefits be adjourned to a later stage of the proceedings."
  • For 1 4 5 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 (13 votes).
  • Against 2 3 6 (3 votes).

Tool Benefit.

Mr. Tindall proposed—

Mr. Apperley seconded—

Adopted.

"That the rule remain unaltered."—Carried unanimously.
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Funeral Benefit.

Mr. Chandler proposed—

Mr. Bobertson seconded—

Adopted.

"That the rule remain unaltered."
  • For 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 13 14 15 (14 votes).
  • Against 12 16 (2 votes).

Branch Surgeons.

Mr. Eales proposed—

Withdrawn.

"That all members not already provided with a surgeon by belonging to some Sick Friendly Society be compelled to have a surgeon, and pay for same."

This proposal not being seconded, it was withdrawn.

Mr. Jones proposed—

Mr. Eales seconded—
"That members of branches employing a branch surgeon shall be

Rejected.

registered. The funds necessary to pay such surgeon shall be raised by an equal levy on registered members."
  • For 8 15 16 (3 votes).
  • Against 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 11 12 13 14 (13 votes).

Mr. Beasley proposed—

Mr. Harrison seconded—

Adopted.

"That the applications received from the branches are insufficient to warrant the G.C. in altering Rule 4, clause 5."
  • For 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 11 12 13 14 (13 votes).
  • Against 8 15 16 (3 votes).

Application for Admission of the National Association of Carpenters and Joiners.

This association consists of nine branches, situate in Nottingham, Derby, Birmingham, West Bromwich, Sheffield, King's Norton, and Cardiff, having, according to their last published quarterly report, 640 members, and an accumulated capital of £1,374. 8s. 3d. They have five superannuated members, whose average age exceeds 74. The average age of the remaining 635 members is 34 years.

Messrs. Loughton and Bateson, of Birmingham, a deputation from the Board of Management of the National Association of Carpenters and Joiners, waited on the G.C. to inquire if any terms could be arranged on which the members of their Association could be admitted into the Amalgamated Society. The same deputation had previously waited on the E.C., who had considered their case, and presented the following recommendation to the G.C.:—

Recommendation of the E.C. to the G.C.

The E.C. recommend the G.C. to propose to the members the temporary suspension of Rule 3 for the purpose of admitting the members of this association into our society, subject to the following conditions:—
1st.—That 95 per cent of the applicants produce medical certificates of good health.
2nd.—That they each pay an entrance fee of £2. 10s.page 9
3rd.—That from the date of their admission they pay the usual contribution of our members; those who have already been members of the National Association twelve months becoming entitled to the benefits provided in our rules immediately that the whole of their entrance is paid; all other members to become entitled to benefit at the end of twelve months from the date when they joined the National Association.
4th.—That for the purpose of superannuation benefit they shall date their entrance from the time when they last joined the National Association or General Union, provided that in no case shall they date back beyond May 1st, 1863. Their five superannuated members to have the benefit they are at present receiving secured to them.

The deputation, in the course of a lengthy interview, fully explained the numerical and financial position of their Association, and replied to numerous questions asked by various members of the G.C. After they had withdrawn, the following terms for their admission were agreed to as a suggestion to our members :—

Mr. Cowen proposed—

Mr. Eales seconded—

Adopted.

"That 95 per cent of the applicants produce medical certificates [of good health."—Carried unanimously.

Mr. Chandler proposed—

Mr. Tindall seconded—
"That they each pay an entrance fee of £2. 10s., excepting non-free members who have been in the National Association less than 6 months,

Rejected.

who shall pay an entrance fee—as per Rule 6, clause 1—proportioned in accordance with their age at the time of their entering the National Association."
  • For 1 2 8 10 11 12 (6 votes).
  • Against 3 4 5 6 7 9 13 14 15 16 (10 votes).
Mr. Apperley proposed—

Withdrawn.

"That all members of the National Association admitted into this society pay the sum of £2. 13s. each, and be entitled to all benefits as soon as their entrance money is paid."

This proposal not being seconded, was not put to the vote.

Mr. Harrison proposed—

Mr. Swaffer seconded—

Adopted.

"That both free and non-free members pay an entrance fee of £2.10s."
  • For 3 4 5 6 7 9 13 14 15 16 (10 votes).
  • Against 1 2 8 10 11 12 (6 votes).

Mr. Harrison proposed—

Mr. Cowen seconded—
"That from the date of their admission they pay the usual contribution of our members; those who have already been members of the National

Adopted.

Association twelve months becoming entitled to the benefits provided in our rules immediately that the whole of then* entrance is paid; all other members to become entitled to benefit at the end of twelve months from the date when they joined the National Association."—Carried unanimously.
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Mr. Harrison proposed—

Mr. Apperley seconded—
"That for the purpose of superannuation benefit they shall date their entrance from the time when they last joined the National Association

Rejected.

or General Union, provided that in no case shall they date back beyond June 1st, 1870. Their five superannuated members to have the benefit they are at present receiving secured to them."
  • For 1 5 7 8 9 10 13 15 (8 votes).
  • Against 2 3 4 6 11 12 11 16 (8 votes).

Mr. Chandler proposed—

Mr. Kirton seconded—
"That for the purpose of superannuation benefit they shall date their entrance from the time when they last joined the National Association

Adopted.

or General Union, provided that in no case shall they date back beyond May 1st, 1863. Their five superannuated members to have the benefit they are at present receiving seemed to them."
  • For 2 3 4 6 11 12 14 16 (8 votes).
  • Against 1 5 7 8 9 10 13 15 (8 votes).

The chairman gave his casting vote in favour of Mr. Chandler's proposal.

Mr. Cowen proposed—

Mr. Winsor seconded—
"That we recommend to the members the temporary suspension of the operation of Rule 3, during the months of October, November, and December next, for the purpose of admitting the members of the National Association of Carpenters and Joiners into our society, subject to the following conditions:
"1st.—That 95 per cent of the applicants produce medical certificates of good health.
"2nd.—That they each pay an entrance fee of £2. 10s.
"3rd.—That from the date of their admission they pay the usual contribution

Adopted.

of our members; those who have already been members of the National Association twelve months becoming entitled to the benefits provided in our rules immediately that the whole of their entrance is paid; all other members to become entitled to benefit at the end of twelve months from the date when they joined the National Association."
"4th.—That for the purpose of superannuation benefit they shall date their entrance from the time when they last joined the National Association or General Union, provided that in no case shall they date back beyond May 1st, 1863. Their five superannuated members to have the benefit they are at present receiving secured to them."
  • For 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 14 15 16 (15 votes).
  • Against 13 (1 vote).

The deputation having returned to the council chamber, the chairman announced to them the decision of the G.C. They thanked the G.C. for the attention which had been given to the question, and expressed their hope that the arrangements just made would prove satisfactory to the members of both Associations, and would tend to a union advantageous to every person interested therein.

Election of the Executive Council.

Mr. Harrison proposed—

Mr. Robertson seconded—
"That the G.C. are of opinion that the mode of election of the E.C. has

Adopted.

up to the present time worked satisfactorily, and consider any alteration unnecessary."
  • For 1 2 3 4 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 (15 votes).
  • Against 5 (1 vote).
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Thursday, June 14th.

Nine O'Clock A.M.

Minutes.

Mr. Swaffer proposed—

Mr. Tindall seconded—

Adopted.

"That the minutes of yesterday's proceedings, as read, bo confirmed."—Carried unanimously.

The Investment of Funds.

Mr. Jones proposed—

Mr. Apperley seconded—

Withdrawn.

"That the E.C. be authorised to collect from the Branches the sum of £20,000 to be invested in the bonds of Municipal Corporations paying not less than 4 per cent per annum, and secured upon the local rates."
Mr. Apperley proposed—

Withdrawn.

"That £30,000 be the amount to be invested with Municipal Corporations,"

This proposition not being seconded was withdrawn.

Mr. Harrison proposed—

Mr. Tindall seconded—
"The society be divided into 16 districts. We propose to take a sum equal to the minimum amount of capital which the society can possess (rule 9, clause 3), equal at present to £16,000, which should be equally divided between the districts, each having £1,000. This would provide against the possibility of having to realise the securities of this fund. A ballot should be held to determine the branch to which the appropriation should fall, and a similar proceeding among the members of such branch to decide upon the particular individual. It might here be useful to hint that only these members who are under 6 weeks in arrears should participate in such ballot, as an inducement to keep their contributions paid up. The appropriation shall be the sum of £300, which would give three chances at once to each district, the money to be lent to members for 12 years at an interest of 5 per cent. The management should be carried out by committees elected from the district, if possible; but where the branches are widely separated, the branch to which the appropriation is allotted shall find its own

Withdrawn.

committee, subject to the rules laid down by a central committee, which shall be chosen from the E.C., for the purpose of watching over the concern in the interest of the society. The expenses of management would not be large if the branches were to send committee-men by rotation, on the same principle as many building societies manage; such service to be gratuitous. Secretary and trustees to be elected annually, and to have a small salary, which might be met by an additional charge of £1 per annum on the member borrowing. The fines for non-payment shall also go to the management fund. The legal expenses (if preferred) should be paid for the member out of the funds—a twelfth of which, with principal and interest added, to be repaid every year. The title deeds or other securities to be lodged with the E.C., and by them to be deposited for security in a bank chosen for the purpose. All property offered by members as security should be examined by a survey committee, to ensure the society against loss; the expense of such survey to be borne by the borrowing member. £16,000 produces £800 per annum at 5 per cent.
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1st year's repayments £40 0 0
2nd year's repayments 38 15 0
3rd year's repayments 37 10 0
4th year's repayments 36 5 0

Withdrawn.

5th year's repayments
35 0 0
6th year's repayments 33 15 0
7th year's repayments 32 10 0
8th year's repayments £31 5 0
9th year's repayments 30 0 0
10th year's repayments 28 15 0
11th year's repayments 27 10 0
12th year's repayments 26 5 0
Total £407 10 0

The interest might be averaged to make the repayments equal each year, which would be £33. 193. 2d. per annum."

Mr. Cowen proposed—

Mr. Winsor seconded—

Withdrawn.

"That £10,000 be the amount invested."

Mr. Sweeney proposed—

Mr. Swaffer seconded—
"That this Council, although most anxious that we should have the best

Adopted.

possible return for our money, consistent with safety, are of opinion that the time has not yet arrived to adopt any of the proposed suggestions."
  • For 1 2 5 6 9 14 15 16 (8 votes).
  • Against 3 4 7 8 10 11 12 13 (8 votes).

The chairman having recorded his casting vote in favour of this proposal, all the propositions suggesting special modes of investing capital became unnecessary, and were consequently withdrawn.

Misconduct of Members.

Mr. Harrison proposed—

Mr. Eales seconded—
"That we are of opinion that Rule 46, clause 1, deals with the case stated

Adopted.

by the Camberwell Branch, and we consider any alteration of rule uncalled for."—Carried unanimously.

General Councilmen to Visit Branches.

Mr. Beaumont proposed—

Mr. Harrison seconded—
"That the proposal of the Middlesbrough and Stockton Branches, if

Adopted.

adopted, would entail an excessive cost without producing results which would justify such an expenditure."—Carried unanimously.

Equalisation of Funds.

Mr. Eales proposed—

Mr. Flinn seconded—

Adopted.

"That Rule 43 remain unaltered."
  • For 1 2 3 4 5 9 10 11 13 14 15 16 (12 votes).
  • Against 6 7 8 12 (4 votes).

Mr. Tindall proposed—

Mr. Beaumont seconded—

Rejected.

"That the words 'twelve months' in Rule 43 be altered to 'three years.'"
  • For 6 12 (2 votes).
  • Against 1 2 3 4 5 7 8 9 10 11 13 14 15 16 (14 votes).
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Mr. Smith proposed—

Mr. Jones seconded—

Rejected.

"That the equalisation take place every two years."
  • For 7 8 (2 votes).
  • Against 1 2 3 4 5 6 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 (14 votes).

Mr. Cowen proposed—

Mr. Sweeney seconded—

Rejected.

"That no sum less than £5 be remitted as equalisation."
  • For 3 5 (2 votes).
  • Against 1 2 4 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 (14 votes).

Funeral and Tool Benefits.

Mr. Jones proposed—

Mr. Kirton seconded—

Adopted.

"That the decision of the E.C. in the San Francisco tool case be confirmed."
  • For 1 2 3 4 6 8 9 10 11 (9 votes).
  • Against 5 7 12 13 14 15 16 (7 votes).

Mr. Harrison proposed—

Mr. Sweeney seconded—
"That we are of opinion that the decision of the E.C. was not in

Rejected.

accordance with the spirit and intentions of our rules, and consider that ' the deceased's relatives are justly entitled to the tool benefit, providing the member was not disqualified in accordance with the provisions of our rules."
  • For 5 7 12 13 14 15 16 (7 votes)
  • Against 1 2 3 4 6 8 9 10 11 (9 votes).

Mr. Swaffer proposed—

Mr. Chandler seconded—
"That for the future guidance of the E.C. we decide that in the event of any member dying when travelling, by land or water, having loft an inventory of the tools taken with him on the journey with the B.S., or forwarded to the B.S. by post previous to commencing the journey, his branch shall be

Adopted.

empowered, in the event of it being proved to their satisfaction that the said tools are lost by fire, water, or theft, to pay to the relatives or nominee of the said member the amount which may be awarded by the branch committee as the value of the tools thus registered and lost."—Carried unanimously.

Reduced Contributions and Increased Benefits.

Mr. Harrison proposed—

Mr. Beasley seconded—

Adopted.

"That the present rates of contributions remain unaltered-"—Carried unanimously.

Mr. Chandler proposed—

Mr. Beaumont seconded—

Rejected.

"That the sick benefit be increased to 14s. per week for 26 weeks, and after the expiration of that time to 7s. per week as long as illness continues."
  • For 6 11 12 16 (4 votes).
  • Against 1 2 3 4 5 7 8 9 10 13 14 15 (12 votes).
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Form of Claiming Sick Benefit.

Mr. Jones proposed—

Mr. Flinn seconded—

Rejected.

"That the following form be adopted: "—

To the Secretary of the_______Branch.

The________day of________18

Insert here cause of the inability to work.

Sir,—This is to inform you that I became, on the______day of______ 18____, incapable of working at my trade, on account of______, and I therefore request sick benefit from that date.

(Signed),

The claimant must here sign his name and address.

Name,______

Address,______

  • For 8 16 (2 votes).
  • Against 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 (14 votes).

The Monthly Reports.

Mr. Sweeney proposed—

Mr. Kirton seconded—

Adjourned.

"That it be left to the discretion of the E.C. to extend the size of the Monthly Report when they think it necessary to do so."

Mr. Smith proposed—

Mr. Jones seconded—
"That Rule 31, clause 3, be amended as follows:—'He shall issue a Monthly Report, which shall be charged one penny each to members; it shall be the medium of communication between the E.C. and the Branches,

Adjourned.

and contain the result of voting by the members on any question; the state of trade in each locality; and all Branch resolutions which are forwarded for publication, with the decisions of the E.C. thereon, excepting such resolutions as votes of thanks to retiring officers, members leaving the country, &c.'"

After a lengthy discussion, the consideration of this question was adjourned until the following morning.

Friday, June 15th.

Nine O'Clock A.M.

Minutes.

Mr. Cowen proposed—

Mr. Eales seconded—

Adopted.

"That the minutes of yesterday's proceedings, as read, be confirmed."—Carried unanimously.
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The Monthly Reports.

The consideration of two proposals adjourned from the previous evening was now resumed.

Mr. Sweeney proposed—

Mr. Kirton seconded—

Withdrawn.

"That it be left to the discretion of the E.C. to extend the size of the Monthly Report when they think it necessary to do so."

Mr. Smith proposed—

Mr. Jones seconded—
"That Rule 31, clause 3, be amended as follows:—'He shall issue a monthly report, which shall be charged one penny each to members; it shall be the medium of communication between the E.C. and the branches,

Withdrawn.

and contain the result of voting by the members on any question; the state of trade in each locality; and all branch resolutions which are forwarded for publication, with the decision of the E.C. thereon. All votes of thanks to be excluded from the pages of the monthly report.' The remainder to be unaltered."

During the discussion both of the foregoing propositions were withdrawn.

Mr. Harrison proposed—

Mr. Swaffer seconded—
"That the E.C. be instructed to print returns of votes on separate sheets

Adopted.

whenever the amount of available space in the monthly report is limited. That resolutions containing votes of thanks be no longer inserted in the monthly reports."
  • For 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 (9 votes).
  • Against 1 2 3 4 5 6 16 (7 votes).

Mr. Kirton proposed—

Mr. Robertson seconded—
"That the E.C. shall have the discretionary power of enlarging the

Rejected.

monthly report on all occasions when they have to take a vote of the members."
  • For 1 2 3 4 5 6 16 (7 votes).
  • Against 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 (9 votes).

Mr. Sweeney proposed—

Mr. Apperley seconded—
"That the E.C. be requested to send the monthlies direct to each branch

Adopted.

which requires them to do so."—Carried unanimously.

Mr. Smith proposed—

Mr. Beasley seconded—
"That the G.S. be instructed to append to each quarterly financial report

Rejected.

of the G.O. a list of attendances of members of the E.C. during the preceding quarter."
  • For 7 9 10 11 (4 votes).
  • Against 1 2 3 4 5 6 8 12 13 11 15 16 (12 votes).
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Election of the G.C.

Mr. Sweeney proposed—

Mr. Kirton seconded—
"That in order to allow our Australasian members to take part in the election of the G.C., it take place twelve months previous to the next

Adopted.

triennial G.C. meeting. The nomination to take place six months previous to the election, and the arrangements of districts to appear in the monthly report two months before the time of nomination."
  • For 1 2 3 4 5 11 12 14 15 16 (10 votes).
  • Against 6 7 8 9 10 13 (6 votes).

Young Members Taking Office.

Mr. Beaumont proposed—

Mr. Sweeney seconded—
"That no member be allowed to hold office in this society before he

Adopted.

attains the age of 21 years."—Carried unanimously.

Dissolution.

Mr. Jones proposed—

Mr. Beasley seconded—
"That as long as eight members in the entire society hold together, conforming to the rules, this society shall not be dissolved: but whenever the number of members in this society is reduced to seven by deaths, and by

Adopted.

exclusions in conformity with rule, a majority of the seven survivors may, in meeting assembled at the registered office, finally dissolve this society, and after discharging all debts and liabilities legally incurred in the society's name, they may divide the funds among the whole of the members in equal portions."—Carried unanimously.

Foremen.

Mr. Swaffer proposod—

Mr. Sweeney seconded—

Adopted.

"That the reply of the E.C. to the Wolverhampton Branch be endorsed."—Carried unanimously.

Appeals of Branches.

Mr. Harrison proposed—

Mr. Tindall seconded—
"That Rule 50, clause 1, be amended as follows:—Any branch in which a majority of not less than two-thirds of the members present at a special summoned meeting differ from the decision of the E.C., may

Adopted.

appeal to the next G.C. meeting, or to the branches, against such decision, by forwarding their appeals through the E.C., together with a list of the members appealing. If the members of the society or G.C. decide against the appeal of any branch, the members who voted for such appeal shall pay all expenses incurred."—Carried unanimously.
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Piecework

Mr. Tindall proposed—

Mr. Chandler seconded—
"That in the opinion of this Council the time has arrived when we ought to take urgent measures for the total abolition of piecework in the London District, as we consider it detrimental to the interest of the trade, likewise

Adjourned.

to our society, and that we consider the steps taken by the E.C. to annul the decision of the London members (given by their representatives at a special delegate meeting convened for that purpose in November last) as injudicious and contrary to the interests of our society."

A lengthy discussion ensued, in which the action taken by the London Branches and the policy pursued by the E.C. were fully reviewed. The debate was eventually adjourned until Saturday morning.

Saturday, June 16th.

Nine O'Clock A.M.

Minutes.

Mr. Sweeney proposed—

Mr. Winsor seconded—

Adopted.

"That the minutes of yesterday's proceedings, as read, be confirmed."—Carried unanimously.

Piecework.

The discussion of this question was resumed.

Mr. Tindall proposed—

Mr. Chandler seconded—
"That we consider the steps taken by the E.C. to annul the decision of the London members (given by their representatives at a special delegate

Adopted.

meeting convened for that purpose in November last) as injudicious and contrary to the interests of our society."
  • For 2 4 6 7 10 11 12 13 15 16 (10 votes).
  • Against 1 3 5 8 9 14 (6 votes).

Mr. Sweeney proposed—

Mr. Cowen seconded—
"That, whilst this Council wishes to prohibit piecework wherever

Rejected.

practicable, we are of opinion that the decision of the E.C. under the circumstances was justified."
  • For 1 3 5 8 9 14 (6 votes).
  • Against 2 4 6 7 10 11 12 13 15 16 (10 votes).

Borough Appeal.

Mr. Sweeney proposed—

Mr. Eales seconded—

Adopted.

"That the decision of the E.C. in the case of Br. Rumble be confirmed."—Carried unanimously.

Burton-On-Trent Appeal.

This appeal was not forwarded for the consideration of the G.C.

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Halifax Appeal.

Mr. Beaumont proposed—

Mr. Apperley seconded—

Adopted.

"That the decision of the E.C. in the case of Br. Yates be confirmed."—Carried unanimously.

Salford 1st Branch.

This appeal was not forwarded for the consideration of the G.C.

Delegations.

Mr. Jones proposed—

Mr. Smith seconded—
"That the General Council hereby rescind the following resolution of the E.C. of the 29th June, 1874, and much regret that it should ever have

Adjourned.

been passed—namely: "That whenever it is decided to send the Gen. Sec. from home on delegation he shall be entitled to the wages of the Manchester district, in addition to the expenses and dinners, as per rule.'"

Mr. Beasley proposed—

Mr. Sweeney seconded—

Adopted.

"That the consideration of this question and other remaining business be adjourned to Monday morning."
  • For 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 15 (11 votes).
  • Against 1 2 3 14 16 (5 votes).

Mr. Kirton proposed—

Mr. Cowen seconded—

Rejected.

"That we adjourn for half an hour, and then hold an afternoon sitting."
  • For 1 2 3 14 16 (5 votes).
  • Against 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 15 (11 votes).

Monday, June 18th.

Nine O'Clock A.M.

Minutes.

Mr. Beaumont proposed—

Mr. Kirton seconded—

Adopted.

"That the minutes of Saturday's proceedings, as read, be confirmed."

Delegations.

The discussion of this question was resumed.

Mr. Jones proposed—

Mr. Smith seconded—
"That the General Council hereby rescind the following resolution of the E.C. of the 29th June, 1874, and much regret that it should ever have

Adopted.

been passed—namely: 'That whenever it is decided to send the Gen. Sec. from home on delegation he shall be entitled to the wages of the Manchester district, in addition to the expenses and dinners, as per rule.'"—Carried unanimously.
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Mr. Chandler proposed—

Mr. Eales seconded—
"That in order to lessen the expenses of special delegations, where two are required to visit any branch or locality, one shall be the G.C. of the

Adopted.

district; but in cases where only one is required, if by sending the G.C. of the district it will lessen the expense, that course shall be adopted if practicable."—Carried unanimously.

Office Assistance.

Mr. Harrison proposed—

Mr. Swaffer seconded—
"That the G.C. condemn the policy of the E.C. in employing as office assistant one of their own body, at a salary of £2. per week, believing

Adopted.

that joiner's wages of the district would have been amply sufficient, and that in future, when assistance is required, it shall be obtained, if practicable, outside the Council Board."
  • For 2 3 4 5 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 (13 votes).
  • Against 1 6 16 (3 votes).

The Votes of the Members.

Mr. Tindall proposed—

Mr. Jones seconded—
"That it be an instruction to the E.C. that all questions requiring the

Adopted.

votes of the members to be taken throughout the Society, they shall, before doing so, consult the G.C., and if a majority consent, it shall be carried out immediately.
  • For 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 (14 votes).
  • Against 1 2 (2 votes).

The London District.

Mr. Chandler proposed—

Mr. Sweeney seconded—
"That the following be inserted in clanse 4, Rule 26.—'Whenever our members may join a United Trade Committee, it shall be the duty of the secretary of the senior branch in that district to forward to the E.C. without

Adopted.

delay a copy of every balance sheet or financial statement issued by the committee. The secretary of the senior branch in the London District shall also call all delegate meetings, take minutes of the same, and forward a copy to each branch in the district, and shall be paid in accordance with Rule 51, clause 14."
  • For 1 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 (15 votes).
  • Against 2 (1 vote.)

Compiling Committee.

The G.C. then proceeded to the election of a Compiling Committee, when Messrs. Beaumont and Smith were unanimously elected.

Mr. Kirton proposed—

Mr. Beasley seconded—
"That the Compiling Committee be instructed to submit to the votes of

Adopted.

the members all questions involving a change of rules."—Carried unanimously.
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Copies of Minutes.

Mr. Kirton proposed—

Mr. Cowen seconded—

Adopted.

"That 8,500 copies of the minutes of this meeting be printed."—Carried unanimously.

Summoned Meetings.

Mr. Beaumont proposed—

Mr. Winsor seconded—
"That the votes of the members be taken on the matter to be submitted

Adopted.

to them at special summoned meetings to be convened for that purpose during the month of August."—Carried unanimously.

Alteration of Rule.

Mr. Cowen proposed—

Mr. Swaffer seconded—
"That a copy of the amendments of rule which may be agreed to, be

Adopted.

supplied gratuitously to every member; and that the same come into operation on October 1st, 1877."—Carried unanimously.

Votes of Thanks.

Mr. Jones proposed—

Mr. Chandler seconded—

Adopted.

"That a vote of thanks be presented to the Chairman for his impartiality in presiding over the meeting."—Carried unanimously.

Mr. Kirton proposed—

Mr. Winsor seconded—
"That a vote of thanks be accorded to the Gen. Sec. for the very able

Adopted.

assistance he has rendered to the Council during their deliberations."—Carried unanimously.

Allowance to the General Secretary.

Mr. Harrison proposed—

Mr. Sweeney seconded—
"That the Gen. Sec. be allowed delegate's expenses for the time during

Adopted.

which he has been taken from his ordinary work to attend the sittings of this Council."—Carried unanimously.

Mr. Cowen proposed—

Mr. Flinn seconded—

Adopted.

"That the minutes of this day's proceedings, as read, be confirmed."—Carried unanimously.
Compiling Committee.

J. Beaumont,

J. B. Smith,

J. D. Prior,

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