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Salient. Official Newspaper of the Victoria University Students' Association. Vol 44 No. 16. July 20 1981

Letters

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Letters

Drawing of a hand writing with a feather quill

Septic Tanks?

Dear Stephen,

Reference the article on the ASA conference. For your information the "tanks" in the photo are not actually tanks at all, and they are of US manufacture, not Soviet.

STNW,

Sandbagger 1

Disabled not Covered

Dear Sir,

Presumably the purpose of designing a covered way between Easterfield and the Library block was not purely an artistic exercise, but was for the purpose of limiting the weather's effect on fraught students rushing between buildings.

Why then, considering this year's focus on the disabled (who comprise 10% of the population), have they not been catered for.

The covered (partially coveted, mostly open) way between these two buildings seems to have been designed by the non-disabled for the non-disabled.

There seems a strange pattern of inconsistent accessways throughout the various buildings and this new covered access seems to continue the pattern.

The logic seems hard to follow; considerable research has been carried out and is available in the university Library which specifically focusses on the problem of access for the disabled within the university complex and yet this is another instance where they have been overlooked.

Perhaps there are plans in the pipeline to provide them with a series of underground subways - however, in the meantime they continue to be doubly disadvantaged. They face the prospect of a wet winter and the continuing problem of limited access affecting the range and scope of their studies.

S. Rogers

Furioso e Con Forza

Sir,

Brian Pike's reply (Salient 13 July) to Gavin Saunders' criticism is brilliant! Really gets my adrenalin going!

For a start, he points out it's all about a change in code, not risk. That's irrelevant, obviously the risk is there, the old codes were too loose. The new code demands higher safety standards. This works fine until noble preservation societies stop in. (Preservation of buildings, not students, not working surroundings and conditions).

Then he says FoH are doing "them" a favour by delaying the need to find somewhere else for us. Great! I really appreciate that! While FoH and "they" play tin soldier games we are the losers. Perhaps FoH could do us a favour and find us somewhere suitable (possible) to study and work. Then, who knows, you might find a few music students wishing to help preserve a building that was and could be (at great expense I must admit) magnificent.

We have to study there. There are 45 or so of us studying musical performance as a major. This entails lots of practice. There are five reasonable practice rooms (well lit usually, and not too decrepid) so long as you don't mind the lack of an) sound proofing. They are like ovens, not good for players or instruments. If we open the windows the telephonists complain. If we open doors the physicists and the rest of the music dept complain. Perhaps the physicists and telephonists could help us get out of here.

Meanwhile five rooms don't go far so we spread out into the further reaches of Hunter (poor physicists, we do sympathise) or into rooms like 318 - no windows, poor lights, shitty walls, and the sound of dripping water from the ceiling competes with sow metronome. The smell sometimes is unbelievable.

Frankly I don't give a damn who's responsible for keeping us here any more than they give a damn about us. I do object to the fact that there is not a plausible excuse; they even (take note Mr Pike) try and make out to be doing us a favour.

We are put off by peeling paint, crumbling plaster, burnt out lights, dropping ceilings, and the way the building shakes if people walk at more than snails pace. I suggest FoH members try working and studying here, take some of your own medicine and stop playing with my survival chances.

Mary Robbie

The Friends of Hunter organisation has no responsibility for the accommodation of staff and students; it is the university's entirely.

Ed.

Salient Racist?

Dear Stephen,

I am writing to complain about the notice on the back of last weeks Salient about the anti-tour March - it is blatantly racist. Why emphasize the "liberation" of the blacks only. What about the Chinese, Indians & Coloureds, not to mention those Whites who suffer the injustices of the Botha government.

Frederick Selous

Ed.

The Black liberation movements struggle for the freedom of all Africans of Azania. They define Africans as all those who owe their allegience only to Africa and are prepared to accept African majority rule. This means there is even a role for whites before and alter national liberation.

Thus, 'Black liberation' includes all these people. It has no intention of splitting the African people into 'manageable' ethnic groups, as the South African regime has long attempted to do.

Losing Weight the Easy Weigh

Dear Skin,

I've had a gutsfull of hearing about the Springbok tour. I couldn't give a bugger for gays', women's or anyone else's rights, and as far as I'm concerned the French can test their bombs anywhere they like - but Christ, when some twerp flogs the weights out of the Rec Centre that really bloods annoys me. I hope the nerd reads this 'coz then he'd know he's pissed off about 30 regular gym users and besides, the nerd could get better use from them at the gym than anywhere else, (unless he ties 'em 'round his neck and jumps off Queen's Wharf).

Yours,

M.S.

Hunter Highlighted

Dear Comrade in arms,

It appears to me that all this chatty business spreading over the front pages of Salient are not doing anything for the plight of students still using the Hunter building.

Gavin Saunders' article (two weeks back) highlighted the problems facing both physics and music students very well. The reply from Friends of Hunter and such like has not altered anything said in the aforementioned article. All this talk is getting us students nowhere. Why aren't these influential people who read Salient doing something about finding alternative accommodation instead of passing motions to the effect that they should slop sitting around talking about doing something and stop passing motions and actually do something.

Unless we students (and lecturers, too for that matter) continue to raise a stink about the depressing atmosphere and general decay of the building this whole issue will sink back into the woodwork. Good work, lads (and lasses); keep it up!

Your faithful correspondent,

Ukulele Ike

What Price a New Careers Advisor?

Dear Sir,

I understand that the present Careers Advisor, Mr R.B. Bartley, is to resign from his post as of September this year. I am sure that all students will join me in thanking him for his 10 years service to the university, and will wish him well in the future.

However the point which I wish to draw your attention to is that the university administration has not named the person to fill Mr Bartley's position.

Furthermore, I understand that the Board does not intend to refill this important position. I propose, therefore, that our students association has a duty to approach the Board to ensure that we do have a competant Careers Advisor in the future.

The Careers Advisors Service is a valuable asset to all students, and its importance should not be underestimated.

I (and all students) await a reply from both the Students Association and the university administrators.

B.T. Bush

Boundless Expectations

Dear Salient and Student Exec Type People,

I was amazed and gratified that such swift action was taken in reaction to my "Hopping Mad" letter. You have restored my faith in democrat's (on a small scale).

Flushed with success I am now writing to the Rugby Union to ask them to stop the tour and Moscow to ask them to get out of Afghanistan. Expectantly yours,

Xeno Phobix

Adams on the Rack

Dear Sir,

In reading the article "More than a paper tiger" I was quite surprised to see the extent to which Virginia Adams was fooled by the Iraqis.

In the article she says that she "was very aware of the fact the Iraqis were paying for the whole trip". What an understatement. She must have been so aware of the fact that she found it necessary to pas them back by repeating their propaganda in her article. A few examples:
1."Iraq does have legitimate claims to much of the disputed territory (Shat-al Arab and Karun River enclaves)."
2."Advances made under the Arab Ba'ath Socialist party are evident."
3."Womens' position overall has improved... these improvements are considerable."
4."In recent years these (links with the USSR) have weakened markedly until today the Soviets appeal usefull only as a source of arms (only?) with no strings attached" (oh I really believe the Soviets supply arms with no strings attached).
5."The Iraqi government... wishes to be independent of both superpowers" (just like Cuba).

Ms Adams completely ignored the fact that the ruling Ba'ath Socialist Party is a one man military dictator much worse than the "dictatorships" she mentions in her article, Even more importantly she ignores the gross human rights violations that are so common, oppression of minorities such as the Kurds (who have a large part of their homeland occupied by lraq) of the few Jews still alive (with many being hung publicly after being accused of being Zionist spies).

Free political expression is also banned in lraq but Virginia you are now in New Zealand so don't be afraid tell us about the real Iraq.

E. Harmor

PS. It would be interesting to see what would happen if a South African wine company pay for Ms Adams next trip maybe to a students conference in South Africa.

English 214 Defended

Dear Stephen,

I would suggest to "Hende Nicholas" that instead of masking himself behind the anonymity of a pseudonym, he might take his complaints about ENGL 214 to the right people, if he feels that strongly.

I myself take objection to the majority of criticisms levelled at the course and its staff in your letter. I would agree however that the course probably was a failure as far as you were concerned. This is perhaps more a reflection of your attitude to it, rather than the course itself.

Classes are "boring and slow" because students with your attitude make them boring and slow. Reading a text through once and then relying on critics to gel you through your essays, seems to suggest that you were more interested in obtaining the 6 credits than with learning about Middle English Literature.

P. Hassett

Drawing of people in a men's bathroom

Films Underexposed

Dear Ed,

Vic has an excellent film programme, but buggered if its worth going out of your way to see anything. I've gone to see six films this year, and on three of those occasions I wasn't able to see the advertised film. I'm just grateful I haven't wasted my time more often.

On one occasion the wrong film was being shown. Why? Because two films had arrived oul of sequence, and rather than keeping the first one over to the correct screening time, thus inconveniencing only one prospective audience, it was decided to show each on the wrong day and piss off two prospective audiences. Brilliant!

On another occasion, the film I'd gone to see had been transferred to a later time without warning in Salient.

Finally, Macbeth simply wasn't available.

Funny, but for each of those films I just happened to make a great big, sweaty effort to get there, only to have to walk home again.

I, and no doubt many like me, are fucking pissed off! Perhaps the circumstances are beyond the Film Controller's (where did they get that name from) control, but whether s/he likes it or not, it is her/his responsibility. So why hasn't the ill-mannered person ever apologised for these (and possibly several other for all I know) cock ups?

Have a nice day,

Sandy Pointon

PS Hate to moan again, but the VUW Film Society has been no more successful in the above respect than the Film Controller. And it's a lot colder walking home at 8.00pm when you're annoyed than it is at 2.15pm!

Editorial Criticised

Dear Sir,

I have never before been quite angry enough to write to you in order to complain about the inflammatory language and sheer hypocrisy that occasionally occurs in Salient editorials - but the editorial last week (Salient 13 July) was too much for me and this time I am writing to you - in the hope that you will apologise for your remarks! I shall quote a passage from your own editorial:

"Just as on every other match day, a mass, militant and disruptive protest will be held in every main centre - designed to stretch the State's policing forces beyond breaking point" (emphasis added).

Presumably by this remark you mean riots -which are extremely violent - as peaceful, non-violent protests would not "stretch the Slate's policing forces beyond breaking point." That statement is bad enough - it seems to be an invitation to your readers to join in this 'disruptive' protest but you go on to say:

"However, anti-tour activists must face the prospect of violence being used by tour supporters, and even the police."

I find it simply incredible that anyone can claim violence will erupt, without a disruption as bad as a riot, from our long suffering police and from pro-tour supporters (who have made no such threats) towards peaceful anti-tour activists. When the two statements appeared within two lines of each other in an editorial I could not believe what I was seeing - please retract your statement that tour supporters and the police are likely to use violence against 'peaceful, non-violent activists'.

Yours in anger,

Noni Andersen

It is quite possible to be disruptive and nonviolent at the same time. For example, sitting down en masse on a street corner and refusing to move. Large numbers of police would be needed to deal with such a protest.

On the question of violence, consider what happened to the group of about 40 anti-tour protesters peacefully demonstrating in the town of Eltham on July 3. They were attacked by a mob of 200 tour supporters - quite violently.

Or consider the peaceful Auckland demonstration on Friday 10 July, when police used considerable force to randomly arrest protestors.

The police and army are too used by the Stale to ensure the tour goes ahead - and have been through intensive training to do so.

For these reasons I cannot agree to withdraw any part of lust week's editorial.

Ed.

Writings on the Wall

Dear Sir,

Having attended this university for a number of years I have always been appalled by the sheer volume of unsightly posters that adorn our walls. The Students Association and the PSA have been principal offenders in the past, but now, my God, its the bloody Christians. For three days now we have been getting the story about humane life or death and it seems that some Mitchell person is having a spout. He might have a direct line with the big man in the sky but he's making a hell of a mess around this campus with his posters.

We have noticeboards in all the main foyers, you can advertise in Salient and on lecture blackboards, but quit slicking your fucking posters to our buildings. I like my concrete grey.

I hope sour glue rots and the colours fade, and frankly I don't care for Mitchell.

Yours awaiting the second coming,

Leo.

Since When has the Debating Society been a Non-Political Club?

Dear Mr A'Court,

It is through the pages of your organ that I wish to register my disgust at the actions of those responsible for cancelling a previously scheduled booking of the Union Hall by the Debating Society on Wednesday 14 July, in order to hold an SGM.

This seems to set a particularly unsavoury, and disturbing precedent, in that certain executive members can, at will, cancel previously made bookings by legitimate clubs in the twinkling of an eye.

Not only does this make a mockery of the booking form system, but perhaps reflects the low priority accorded non-political clubs by the Association's executive.

The invaluable contribution made by clubs, such as the Debating Society has long been ignored by the Association. Many students derive an enormous amount of enjoyment from Union Hall debates and the like, much more so than the boredom and tedium of the farcical "democratic" SRC's and SGM's. I deplore this action and urge those responsible for the welfare of VUW's cultural clubs to act to see this outrage does not occur again.

Michael Carr-Gregg

You seem to have your dates a little confused. There is no Wednesday 14 July. Last Wednesday 15 July there was an SRC. There is an SGM, but it is on this Tuesday 21 July.

However, the principle of SRCs and SGMs taking precedence over club meetings (and not just 'non-political' clubs) is a long established one. It is always unfortunate to have a time clash, but you must appreciate that, as far as the Association is concerned, policy setting meetings which all students can attend must take a higher priority.

Anyone around the Association as long as you (and a past exec member yourself) should also know noon on Wednesday in the Union Hall is the traditional SRC or SGM meeting time.

Ed.