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"Samoa for the Samoans."

"Samoa for the Samoans."

Mr. Slipper: This idea of self-government—where did you first hear of it?—The first I heard of it was in a speech made by His Excellency at Mulinu'u.

Mr. Slipper: And when did you next hear of it?—A speech was made by Sir Maui Pomare in the House of Parliament in New Zealand.

Did you hear anything of it during the sitting of the Royal Commission.-I heard Sir Charles Skerrett put a leading question to some of the witness.

And some answered in the affirmative?—Yes, I think that if they had been told to expect that, in time it would be the natural answer.

As far as you were concerned with the Mau, it was never mooted or hinted?—No, never.

The objects of the League are set forth in the "Guardian" of May the 26th. 1!—Yes.

Those are the accepted objects of the League, framed early in this year?—Yes.

You cannot recollect the particular incident about Tagaloa?—I cannot recollect the incident. I do recollect urging upon some Samoans to continue to carry out the law concerning rhinocerous beetles. I impressed upon them the necessity as strongly as I possibly could, the necessity for doing this.

As to discriminating the Government-have you ever had your attention called to any particular articles in your paper with a request to correct them, except the "Customs incident" which Mr. McCarthy sent to you?—That is the only time that I remember.

On receipt of that you corrected it?—I immediately exonerated those persons who might have been hinted at in the article.

With that exception, you have not had your attention called to any notice in your paper or had a request to modify anything?—No.

If you had told sensational falsehoods, there is sufficient law of sedition to encompass the matter?—Yes.

Mr. Slipper: Is there seditious libel as well?—Yes.

Has any prosecution been brought against you?—No.

Has it been threatened or suggested?—Not that I know of.

General Richardson: You were in American Samoa for a long time. Mr. Gurr?—Yes, from 1900 to 1924.

You know the Natives well ?—I am reputed to know them well.

Do you think that the Natives are competent to reason for themselves in the same way as a European, the criticisms that appear in the press?—There are some-many of them, at the present time.

Do you consider that it is necessary for the peace, order and good government of the Natives that they have confidence in their Administrator?—"

Are the Natives inclined to believe what they see in print?—Some of them are.

Criticisms that have been made by you in the Samoan edition of the "Guardian" and circulated amongst the Samoans, criticisms against the Administrator and the Government-do you consider that they would be inclined to disturb the minds of the Samoan people?—Not the criticisms that I have made.

You remember making a criticism of the Government and against the Administrator in the Samoan language?—I may have, in the course of editing the paper. I would like my attention called to it, as I do not recall any special one just now.

I understand that the League was formed with certain objects, one of which v to obtain by constitutional methods what they desired. Are you are that the Natives of the Mau have endeavoured repeatedly to adopt unconstitutional methods?—Thi may have done so during the last few mouths.